Saturday, 4 August 2012

Re: {PBJFlorida} Digest for pbjflorida@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 1 Topic

Dear Friends,
I know I'm a bit late in entering this discussion, but I do want you to know that I posted the story of Ubuntu on my Facebook page and had some terrific responses.  Those of us raised with a vision of Jesus compelling us to love our enemies, do good to those who (may) hate you--know that is it something we have to work at every day.  If this were natural, then there would be very little need for the religious revelations of the major faiths that call us to have compassion--to recognize that we are all in this together---we are all mortal! 

Sometimes I am so overwhelmed by the prejudices that are expressed, the "myths" that are held about various groups of people, that I cannot imagine what I could possibly do to counter it---but I need to keep speaking up and speaking out when Christians defend the right of free speech without making any judgments about the content of that speech.  As in the recent devotion to chic-fil-a because the CEO said some pretty nasty things in opposition to gay marriage---they may oppose gay marriage--but no one should be judged on their ability to show love and nurture a child based upon their sexual orientation.  These stereotypes need to be called into question whenever they arise. 

Our Sunday School class will be embarking on a study of Islam from a Christian's viewpoint--but from a viewpoint that dispels the myths of our culture--and lets people hear the voices of American Muslims and understand how the roots of our faiths are the same.  The tapes include the voices of Eboo Patel, and the Imam of the largest mosque in the U.S.  My hope and prayer is that others will want to know more facts, will want to seek out the Muslims in their own community, and understand rather than fear our differences.

So I'd like to believe that we are naturally empathic, or supportive, but my experience says that those things are learned---we are pretty self-centered in our early years because we need to survive--and we have not got the tools to put ourselves in some else's shoes.  Parents, Religious educators, teachers, youth workers, social workers--all need to help children and adults develop empathy---develop the ability to listen--to hear and acknowledge different experiences. 

Thank you all for the work you do--many of us are working in our own sphere of influence to try and make a difference.  When we share with one another we gain strength and resolve.

Blessings,
Sue Peterson



On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 3:48 AM, <pbjflorida@googlegroups.com> wrote:

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    Aileen Acevedo <ms.acevedo.aileen@gmail.com> Aug 03 10:42AM -0400  

    Jim and Penny, thank you for the compliment. ;o)
     
     
    I agree with Jim in the possibility that Ubuntu describes "a culture
    working together in harmony with the natural operating system to make a
    world that works for everyone, every species with no one and nothing left
    out." In describing "what possibility are you here to create?", in other
    words what are you here to contribute to work toward that possibility; for
    me, it's to interact daily with every living thing coming from that
    perspective so that others may be moved to do the same. Also, to inculcate
    that in the children I work with and hopefully make it the norm.
     
     
     
    Now, I do believe empathy and cooperation is natural, innately built into
    our nature for our survival; however, Penny's insight about competition
    possibly being natural begs the question, is competition ALSO natural and
    necessary for survival? I still think it is cultural, although in nature,
    outside of humans, competition is obvious and necessary as in survival of
    the fittest. Not sure if that should apply to us though. I like what
    Richard said, "How we cease the cancerous growth of separation is to
    realize, and come to act upon this realization, that we are all one. Your
    well-being isn't separate from my well-being" I've heard people apply the
    "survival of the fittest" concept in various social situations, but are we
    erroneously and to our detriment doing that? Like Richard stated, his group
    is "created from a cultural mindset of separateness and has this error
    built into it."
     
     
     
    "Can we come together, collaborate and create and commit to a truly
    heart-felt possibility greater than our own self interests?" I believe the
    answer to this is yes because ultimately for me that is the purpose of
    life, but I also think it depends on where your gifts and passions are to
    reach that goal so that it effects who you "collaborate and create" with.
     
    Anywho, thanks once again everyone for a great conversation – it's these
    interactions that propel us forward to achieving a better world.
     
     
    :o) Aileen
     
    On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Richard G. Powell

     

    Penny Villegas <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com> Aug 03 11:08AM -0400  

    Good to hear Aileen/s voice in the best discussion we've had in a long time.
    I raised the sibling rivalry and law of the jungle not to infer that we
    could not/should strive for harmony and mutual loving-kindness. Perhaps the
    gadfly in me wanted to bring some of the other side of the story to our
    discussion.
    Since I absolutely believe that human beings have God-nature and incline
    towards good, I also am confident that we could someday reach that happy
    state. Is it hard? Is it in the far future? Do we all need to work for
    peace and justice? Darn right, darn right, *darn right*!
     
    On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Aileen Acevedo <ms.acevedo.aileen@gmail.com
     
    --
     
    *Penny*

     

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