Saturday, 11 August 2012

Re: {PBJFlorida} Digest for pbjflorida@googlegroups.com - 12 Messages in 5 Topics

AA - Thought you all might like to know the Joplin MO mosque ummah (community) received $332K in donations and exceeded the needed goal by 82K as of this evening. This is what community can do when it is a righteous cause. Thank you Br. Atif AMCC for letting us know. Mom said some corporation donated $100K not sure who it was, she thought it was Best Buys, to help stand up against the hate crime. Also, the Murfreesboro, TN ummah celebrated their first jhummah (weekly sermon and prayers) yesterday after nearly 11 years of fighting the bigots in the area, including fires, major equipment vandalism, zoning legal battles, alhamdu'Allah.

Amira
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    Penny Villegas <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com> Aug 10 08:31AM -0400  

    Last night at the Quaker meeting house, about 40 people met to listen to
    various speakers (our Miguel was one of them) from the Hindu, Muslim,
    Christian, and Native American traditions. We heard buddhist chants, poetry
    and Apache drumming, all in the service of peace and nonproliferation of
    weapons. Amazing how so many different people from so many paths could all
    say the same thing: we are one people, we are God's children, we must care
    for each other and for the planet. It was beautiful.
     
    Why can't we bring it to life, to our lives, to America?
     
    *Penny*

     

    jim belcher <jimbelcher350@me.com> Aug 10 03:23PM -0400  

    Penny, to answer you, I think we can bring our vision to life. To me, the question is "What stops us?" The Buddhists say what's stopping us is "ego grasping mind.". There were many strongly held beliefs represented there last night. Could our attachment to "our" belief be stopping is?
     
    Is it possible to let go of our attachment to beliefs, allegiances, and opinions? Are you (am I) at any moment willing to give up all we have become for what could be?
     
    jim
     

     

    Penny <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com> Aug 10 06:25PM -0400  

    If my beliefs lead me to tolerance and nonviolence how can I give them up? I don't identify with any one tradition__I can say I am a pane theist, God in all. I can't give that up.
    Peace be with us!
     
     
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    Michael Rodriguez <fireryphoenix@hotmail.com> Aug 10 06:38PM -0400  

    Jim,

    I thank you for coming last night to the Abolition 2020 event. Didn't see you leave. But continuing to ask more questions:

    (1) Is it better to not believe in anything, neither war nor peace? Even moral atheists "believe" in doing good.

    (2) Is it "attachment" to plainly believe or to have a legalistic belief system?

    (3) If we don't seek alliances/friendships/cooperation, do we not just become individualistic, self-centered, or self-righteous?

    (4) If we do not form healthy opinions (discernment), do we allow those with the strongest opinions to rule the rest of us with impunity?

    (5) Are not the questions you posed (and that I pose here) opinions themselves, or absolute truths?

    Just continuing the conversation.
     
    Miguel
     
     
     
    From: jimbelcher350@me.com
    Subject: Re: {PBJFlorida} We met to support a stop to nuclear weapons--
    Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:23:59 -0400
    To: pbjflorida@googlegroups.com
     
     
    Penny, to answer you, I think we can bring our vision to life. To me, the question is "What stops us?" The Buddhists say what's stopping us is "ego grasping mind.". There were many strongly held beliefs represented there last night. Could our attachment to "our" belief be stopping is?
     
     
    Is it possible to let go of our attachment to beliefs, allegiances, and opinions? Are you (am I) at any moment willing to give up all we have become for what could be?
     
    jim
     
    On Aug 10, 2012, at 8:31 AM, Penny Villegas <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com> wrote:
     
     
     
     
     
    Last night at the Quaker meeting house, about 40 people met to listen to various speakers (our Miguel was one of them) from the Hindu, Muslim, Christian, and Native American traditions. We heard buddhist chants, poetry and Apache drumming, all in the service of peace and nonproliferation of weapons. Amazing how so many different people from so many paths could all say the same thing: we are one people, we are God's children, we must care for each other and for the planet. It was beautiful.

    Why can't we bring it to life, to our lives, to America?
    Penny
     
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    "Richard G. Powell" <richardgpowell@gmail.com> Aug 11 01:02AM -0400  

    Beautiful Penny!
     
    On 08/10/2012 08:31 AM, Penny Villegas wrote:
     
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    Michael Rodriguez <fireryphoenix@hotmail.com> Aug 10 10:58PM -0400  

    Thanks for sending Abhinav. I could not access the site earlier. I just found out that Fareed Zakaria had plagiarized someone elses article from The New Yorker. CNN removed the article and suspended Zakaria and his CNN show until further notice. This is ashame, because Zakaria is a smart and respected political analyst and writer. But he did not act wisely.
     
    Here is the article from Jill Lepore that Zakaria plagiarized from:
     
    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/jill-lepore
     
     
    From: abhinavd45@hotmail.com
    To: abhinavd45@hotmail.com
    Subject: {PBJFlorida} Zakaria on Gun control history
    Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:45:49 -0400
     
    http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/08/know-your-gun-rights-history/?hpt=hp_t3
     
     
     
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    Michael Rodriguez <fireryphoenix@hotmail.com> Aug 10 11:53PM -0400  

    Correction: Here is the article that Zakaria was accused of Plagiarizing. It is long but a good history of gun control in America.
     
    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/04/23/120423fa_fact_lepore?currentPage=all
     
    "One in three Americans knows someone who has been shot. As long as a
    candid discussion of guns is impossible, unfettered debate about the
    causes of violence is unimaginable. Gun-control advocates say the answer
    to gun violence is fewer guns. Gun-rights advocates say that the answer
    is more guns: things would have gone better, they suggest, if the
    faculty at Columbine, Virginia Tech, and Chardon High School had been
    armed. That is the logic of the concealed-carry movement; that is how
    armed citizens have come to be patrolling the streets. That is not how
    civilians live. When carrying a concealed weapon for self-defense is
    understood not as a failure of civil society, to be mourned, but as an
    act of citizenship, to be vaunted, there is little civilian life left." - Jill Lepore
     
    Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/04/23/120423fa_fact_lepore#ixzz23CqjSdD0
     
    From: fireryphoenix@hotmail.com
    To: pbjflorida@googlegroups.com
    Subject: {PBJFlorida} Article Removed by CNN: Zakaria on Gun control history
    Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 22:58:56 -0400
     
     
     
     
     
    Thanks for sending Abhinav. I could not access the site earlier. I just found out that Fareed Zakaria had plagiarized someone elses article from The New Yorker. CNN removed the article and suspended Zakaria and his CNN show until further notice. This is ashame, because Zakaria is a smart and respected political analyst and writer. But he did not act wisely.
     
    Here is the article from Jill Lepore that Zakaria plagiarized from:
     
    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/jill-lepore
     
     
    From: abhinavd45@hotmail.com
    To: abhinavd45@hotmail.com
    Subject: {PBJFlorida} Zakaria on Gun control history
    Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:45:49 -0400
     
    http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/08/know-your-gun-rights-history/?hpt=hp_t3
     
     
     
     
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    Michael Rodriguez <fireryphoenix@hotmail.com> Aug 10 02:48PM -0400  

    Florida Interfaith Institute
    Fostering Understanding and Acceptance in Central Florida
     
    407.900.0650 - www.floridaii.org - bryan@floridaii.org
     
    The Rev. Bryan G. Fulwider, Executive Director
     
    committed to creating greater civility in community through
    education and insight focused on the development of
    the human spirit in pursuit of deeper religious, cultural,
    and human understanding, tolerance, acceptance, and friendship.
     
     
     
    Bryan's Mailing Address:
     
     
    The Rev. Bryan Fulwider
    The Winter Park Institute
    Rollins College
    1000 Holt Avenue- 2770
    Winter Park, FL 32789
     
     
     
     
     
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    From: Interfaith Council of Central Florida (ICCF) <jim@interfaithfl.org>
    Date: Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:34 AM
    Subject: Interfaith activities at the Sikh gurdwara (temple)
    To:
     
     
    Dear Interfaith Discussion Participants and Other Interested Parties:
     
     
    Because of your interest in interfaith interaction and better understanding of all parts of our diverse community here in Central Florida, I thought you would be interested in two upcoming events at the Sikh gurdwara (temple). Please note the following:
     
     
     
    1. If at all possible, come to a drop-in event this Sunday, August 12, from 10:00 am to 3:00 pm (see attached flyer) and/or to an Interfaith Service on Thursday evening, August 16, at 7:00 pm (see attached announcement). Both events will be held at the Sikh gurdwara at 2527 West SR 426 (Aloma Avenue), Oviedo, FL 32765.
     
     
    2. Please tell others by word of mouth, by forwarding this email or by posting the attached flyer and announcement on any bulletin boards where it would be appropriate to do so.
     
     
    Thanks to all of you for your support for the Sikh community in their time of sorrow and deep concern and for setting an example as we seek to ensure that our diverse Central Florida community is a model of care and concern for everyone.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Jim
     
     
     
     
     
     
    James Coffin, Executive Director
    225 South Interlachen Avenue, Winter Park, FL 32789 | T 321-228-4599  | F  407-647-5921 |  http://interfaithfl.org/

     

    Penny Villegas <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com> Aug 10 11:48AM -0400  

    Yes happy celebration and thanks for sending notice and images of your
    celebrations. Even though I don't understand them, their beauty
    communicates happiness.
     
    On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Michael Rodriguez <
     
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