Sunday, 16 December 2012

Re: {PBJFlorida} Fwd: Naomi Klein: 'I'd Rather Fight Like Hell'

Yes we suck if we think that community is  believing in gathering people to discuss problems and solutions with no action. That is what the churches are currently doing. Community is not people coming to us. It's us going to the people- the needy, the hungry, the ill, the persecuted. Penny gets that sense of community when she helps the homeless. Being with the suffering is community and the only true Communion.

Learn from the prophets and those before you. Serve with love. Do not worry about rejection or failure. Sincere effort and intentions is always appreciated. Serve with love.

Miguel 

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On Dec 16, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Penny Villegas <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com> wrote:

Define community for me. Does it mean that we gather to discuss problems and solutions? If that's what it means then we do indeed suck. We haven't even been able to get a reading group together. So I changed it to a discussion group with invitations to people to bring what they want to discuss.  Nope.
 
I find some community with the Idignity monthly events when we help homeless people get social security cards, birth certificates, etc. My Sofia Circle, a group of women meeting for more than ten years to pray and meditate and study, also is community. I have wanted to find a "community" for social action, peace action but I haven't found it yet.
 
Does anybody want to work to get Pam Bondi out? Rick Scott?
I'd like to work for gun control and for more recycling.
 
Help!
Penny
 


On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 9:10 AM, jim belcher <jimbelcher350@me.com> wrote:
Penny and Miguel and all,
We are not the only ones frustrated, angry, and indignant.  These crises demand collective and creative action.  There is no one answer, no simple action.  Science does not know how this is going to play out; we do know we are at several catastrophic tipping points.

The best we can do at this point is to begin coming together to build strong, collaborative, creative communities, able to respond to the changes as they come.  Currently we suck at community, collaboration and creativity.


Jim

On Dec 14, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Penny <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Jim and all.  This is a great article and I know how right she is.  But I feel very frustrated that smart people who know the situation just sit around and exchange good articles and tsktsk about it. 
Sorry for my bah humbug attitude but 
I want some ideas with action or plan. 


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On Dec 13, 2012, at 7:46 PM, jim belcher <jimbelcher350@me.com> wrote:

See below. 
Our sense of loss of meaning is directly tied to the violence toward nature we are all complicit in. 

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