Friday, 9 November 2012

Re: {PBJFlorida} Digest for pbjflorida@googlegroups.com - 5 Messages in 5 Topics

Yassine, my brother, so good to hear from you. AA all of you. Yes, I agree that prayerfully the tide is starting to shift, although the right is scrambling to find new excuses for their abhorrent behaviors. The hate-mongering and class division is worse than I have ever seen it, and I grew up during desegregation in the South. I only wish I had a bumpersticker that read "The 47% have spoken" but my oligarth employer would find it unmanagerial.

At least this year we did not get called in to be told how to vote - they openly fought on the floor instead.

I also agree on backbone, but I think you will see that happen. It has been highly amusing to see Boehner scurry to try and set a working tone already. Since he won both the electoral and the popular, it makes things a bit more difficult for them to be so stubborn about.  Also, in FL, I am hopeful this gives an opportunity for us to get Scott out of office. The one race that broke my heart was Val Demmings loosing to Webster, proving we still have some strongholds of bigots we need to root out.

Also, now, perhaps, the rest of the country will get on board and start referring to him as President Obama. That gauled me to no end the last 4 years.

So, where do we go next? Looks like the Tea Party is quickly fading into obscurity. Gabby Gifford bravely faced her assailant yesterday to move forward. We alhamdu'Allah have health care and a President who will not tolerate Muslims getting treated like the enemy, and cares about education and the future of our young people. Regardless of the negativity barkers the economy is slowly and steady in a healthy manner improving, housing starts are up, unemployment is coming down, and things overall are waaayyy better than four years ago.  How do we start revamping the negativity, hate, that has been running this country? [When we thought apathy was horrible, did we ever get an answer - not the one we wanted - to the pleas for change.]  How do we take the down-in-the-mouth and turn it into positive energy to help move the train forward?


Open to suggestions....?


Sr. Amira
 
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    yas Ben <yassine_@hotmail.com> Nov 09 04:25AM  

    Thanks for sharing Penny. I think most of us, if not all of us, are relieved with the outcome. The results spoke loud and clear.
     
    Now that he has a few years inside experience with Washington's bureaucracy, I hope that president Obama will have more back bone in the next term. I am still hopeful for a public option and a universal healthcare system that would cover every resident of the US.
     
    I am glad that corporations, although they are officially considered as persons, can not physically vote.
     
    There are many things to be happy about in the wake of the working class victory. I would like to indulge in mentioning one that is close to my heart. I think more Americans are rejecting bigotry, hate, and special interest and proving that super-pacs, hate-mongers and their monie$ can not win elections. I am happy that main stream law abiding Muslims won't be openly called the "enemy" in the House floor for at least the next two years.
     
    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/11/anti-islam-caucus/
     
    Blessings,
     
    Yassine
     
     
     
    Subject: {PBJFlorida} Fwd: Enjoy this
    From: pennyvillegas31@gmail.com
    Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 11:30:01 -0500
    To: pbjflorida@googlegroups.com
     
     
     
    , Penny Villegas <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com>Subject: but thought you all would appreciate this article:
     
     
    The defeat of the 1 percent
     
     
    http://wapo.st/UiH9jqSo relieved today, even in the face of all the problems and work yet to be done.Hugs to all,Ann
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Michael Rodriguez <fireryphoenix@hotmail.com> Nov 08 08:38PM -0500  

     

    "Marilyn J. Amira Taylor" <pippinwithjob28@earthlink.net> Nov 08 07:53PM -0500  

    Penny, will do my best for 28th.
     
    Sorry I did not weigh in earlier, have been at the precinct on Mon and Tues for election and Wed and today are inventory at the store. Top that with Mom's health and I am fairly ill and that is my excuse for the moment :)
     
    Miguel, thank you for your comments on the Chris Hedges article. I, too, took some offense. I, too, am far happier that Obama got elected again. I know too much about business and social beliefs on the other side. My biggest concern was larger than yours, I was so afraid that the only reason Romney wanted elected so badly was to play world god for financial gain.
     
    It is a sad commentary that society and the media has put such unreachable and unrealistic, in some cases, standards on the office of President. Obama has had to make some difficult decisions as Commander-in-Chief. That position requires him to pick the lesser evil often, and that often includes putting people in danger. Those people, may I remind you, Volunteered. They were not drafted. He also has done a lot of good in trying to make a steady, even keeled approach to trying to turn this hugenormous ship in a different direction and a steady power forward.
     
    As I texted to some of my Muslim friends, who, incidentally were torn between moral values but knowing that Romney was highly threatening to their very existence -
     
    O!hamdualah!
     
    Sr. Amira
     
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    "Louise Sheehy" <lfsheehy@cfl.rr.com> Nov 07 01:26PM -0500
     
    Penny, November 28 works for me.
     
    Louise
     
    pbjflorida@googlegroups.com [mailto:pbjflorida@googlegroups.com]
     
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    2 Topics
     
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    § Clergy and community leaders celebrate defeat of Amendment 3 [1 Update]
     
    § Did you read Chris Hedges today? [8 Updates]
     
    <http://groups.google.com/group/pbjflorida/t/adbbe51c7a21b0e3> Clergy and
     
    community leaders celebrate defeat of Amendment 3
     
    Michael Rodriguez <fireryphoenix@hotmail.com> Nov 07 12:05AM -0500
     
    Sent from my iPhone
     
    Begin forwarded message:
     
    <http://groups.google.com/group/pbjflorida/t/85cfbbab6255e7ef> Did you
     
    read Chris Hedges today?
     
    Katie Gillett <gillett.katie@gmail.com> Nov 06 07:54AM -0500
     
    Hi Penny, could you send the link? I'm very interested to read a Chris
     
    Hedges article that you don't endorse!
     
    Happy elections day to all. I am sitting with a pit in my stomach and
     
    fingers crossed, my absentee Florida ballot safely in the mail.
     
    Penny <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com> Nov 06 07:54AM -0500
     
    I agree with this. What I disliked and thought hateful was his diatribe
     
    against Obama. After thinking about I remembered that he likened Obama and
     
    the system to his experience in boarding school:hence the venom.
     
    I'm trying to think of our next meeting. How does Wednesday November 28
     
    sound? RSVP
     
    In peace. Penny
     
    Sent from my iPhone
     
    Penny Villegas <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com> Nov 06 08:33AM -0500
     
    Hello dear Katie,
     
    I too am sitting around with my fingers crossed, but if you read this
     
    article by CH you won't want either one of them to win. It doesn't help us
     
    or the world to use venom as the message. Tell the truth but don't piss in
     
    the soup. Pardon the salty saying but it fits.
     
    Tell us when you will be in town so we can plan a get-together with you.
     
    In peace--
     
    ttp://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_sm_election_20121105/?ln<http://www.t
     
    ruthdig.com/report/item/the_sm_election_20121105/?ln>
     
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    *Penny*
     
    jim belcher <jimbelcher350@me.com> Nov 06 10:28AM -0500
     
    Penny, nov 28 works for me.
     
    Saving that date.
     
    jim
     
    Michael Rodriguez <fireryphoenix@hotmail.com> Nov 06 11:09AM -0500
     
    Hi Katie - Below is the link to the Chris Hedges column.
     
    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_sm_election_20121105/
     
    All - Please Note: My comments below are mine alone and do not indicate
     
    official endorse of PBJFlorida. Please feel free to add your own opinions to
     
    the conversation and our candidates, whether you are for Romney, Obama, or
     
    another candidate. PFJFlorida encourages free speech, thought, and
     
    expression in a respectful manner.
     
    I have stayed mostly silent but today is a very important day. I think Chris
     
    Hedges is brilliant, caring, a scholar and a gentleman, but here I slightly
     
    disagree with his latest article. We can vote today for anyone else, but
     
    it's going to be Romney or Obama that will be president for the next four
     
    years. We keep saying that we have no alternative but to choose the lesser
     
    of two evils. Well, name me a president that was a saint. In fact, no one I
     
    know is a saint - and put into a position of great power, I wonder how we
     
    would be able to hold on to our sanity.
     
    It's true that many people have died under Obama. Over half a million
     
    Americans died under Lincoln. Japanese Americans were put in concentration
     
    camps under Franklin Roosevelt's Administration. The Vietnam War raged under
     
    both Johnson and Nixon. Chris Hedges may be looking for a Messiah. He or she
     
    ain't coming as a US president. "We the people" had our chance to turn
     
    things around for the better with the Occupy movement, but we blew it. We
     
    have few alternatives. And no, Obama and Romney are not the same. Yes, they
     
    both cater to business interests, but the philosophies are different. Obama
     
    wants to make business work for the people and Romney or the current
     
    Republican party wants business to rule people. I don't believe that
     
    corporations will ever be an overall force for good but at least climate
     
    change under Obama has a better chance of being mitigated. Women's rights,
     
    Muslim rights, Immigrant human rights, gay rights, and health care,
     
    Education, and the Arts for all have more of a change of surviving (at least
     
    a while longer) under an Obama administration. There is also a chance that
     
    there will be less wars in an Obama administration. There is some breathing
     
    room for us if he stays in power.
     
    Obama has tried to keep things under control. In doing so, he has had to
     
    make very hard decisions, involving our own private rights and life and
     
    death decisions of non-Americans. He has made mistakes, big ones. But with
     
    so much to deal with, no mortal human being can be expected to be perfect or
     
    even good. He did what he could with the mess he inherited. And it was a
     
    huge mess that may never be fully corrected.
     
    Unless "we the people" are willing to do what it takes to take the streets
     
    and stand up for our beliefs of fairness, cooperation, and community no
     
    matter what the repercussions, we will be left with few choices in
     
    leadership. And that tells more about "us" than either Obama or Romney. But
     
    Obama could have been much worse. He could have been the continuation of the
     
    previous administration. He was not. And for that alone, I will vote for him
     
    again.
     
    Miguel
     
    Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 07:54:14 -0500
     
    Subject: Re: {PBJFlorida} Did you read Chris Hedges today?
     
    From: gillett.katie@gmail.com
     
    To: pbjflorida@googlegroups.com
     
    Hi Penny, could you send the link? I'm very interested to read a Chris
     
    Hedges article that you don't endorse!
     
    Happy elections day to all. I am sitting with a pit in my stomach and
     
    fingers crossed, my absentee Florida ballot safely in the mail.
     
    On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:49 PM, jim belcher <jimbelcher350@me.com> wrote:
     
    Hedges speaks his truth. I believe he is trying to wake us up.
     
    What he says about education rings true for me. "The role of education, the
     
    elites believe, is to train us vocationally for our allotted positions and
     
    assure proper deference to the wealthy. Disciplines that prod us to think
     
    are—and the sneering elites are not wrong about this—"political," "leftist,"
     
    "liberal" or "subversive." And schools and universities across the country
     
    are effectively stomping out these disciplines. The elites know, as Canetti
     
    wrote, that once we stop thinking we become a herd. We react to every new
     
    stimulus as if we were rats crammed into a cage. When the elites push the
     
    button, we jump."
     
    Most educators around me have lost all critical perspective. The have given
     
    in the the bidding of the elite. The state rules education now. We've all
     
    but given up.
     
    And we keep watching the ugly drama unfold silently from the grandstands.
     
    Where's the indignation?
     
    On Nov 5, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Penny Villegas <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com>
     
    wrote:
     
    I have admired CH many times--his honesty, his insight, his articulate
     
    response to injustice, but today's Truthdig was too much. CH was brutal and
     
    I'm not sure he was correct/accurate. That coupled with the Fish drawing
     
    made me feel sick, both for the possible truth and the depths these two
     
    intelligent men have sunk to.
     
    Penny
     
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    jim belcher <jimbelcher350@me.com> Nov 06 05:48PM -0500
     
    Miguel,
     
    I love your analysis.
     
    I especially love where you say, "Unless "we the people" are willing to do
     
    what it takes to take the streets and stand up for our beliefs of fairness,
     
    cooperation, and community no matter what the repercussions, we will be left
     
    with few choices in leadership. And that tells more about "us" than either
     
    Obama or Romney."
     
    Ya'll, please read Miguel's word. You don't have to agree (do disagree).
     
    Just consider them.
     
    Penny <pennyvillegas31@gmail.com> Nov 06 07:47PM -0500
     
    Yes Miguel made a thoughtful response. I agree on most counts.
     
    I'm watching the count now and I feel anxious How could we live in a right
     
    wing America?
     
    Sent from my iPhone
     
    Michael Rodriguez <fireryphoenix@hotmail.com> Nov 06 08:32PM -0500
     
    Thanks Jim and Penny. Good fortune to us all tonight!
     
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    keith@foodnotbombs.net Nov 08 02:48PM -0700  

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    We still need spices, snacks, rice, pasta, spices peanut butter, bread,
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    Michael Rodriguez <fireryphoenix@hotmail.com> Nov 08 09:46AM -0500  

    with high regards,
    Abhinav Dwivedi
    Vice President,
    Hindu University Of America
    113 S. Econlockhatchee Trail
    Orlando, FL 32825, USA
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